Why Cant Bouchard Get Ahead?
In the polls for U.S. Senate, Do Nothing Debbie is ahead!!! How can this be?!? Do Nothing Debbie has done nothing, wait she has done something, she voted AGAINST making the English language the official language of the U.S.!!! Go figure!! People need to realize that Do Nothing Debbie lives up to her nick name!!
posted by BigShot | Thursday, September 28, 2006
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The answer to this questionn will be a little bit longer. Because Sen. Stabenow had done a good job representing all of the people of Michigan, and the republicans have done nothing but plunge us into a needless,disastrous folly inn Iraq.
Mr. Guru,
The so called "needless, disastrous folly in Iraq" is protecting America, and the free peoples of the world from radical Islamist that want the end of the free world!!! When you say that you are also bashing the troops!!! That is there job, to fight for you and me, and they are doing everything they can to keep us safe!!!
With the realse of the report on Iraq, while it does say that terrorists are now recruiting more because of the war in Iraq, it also says that winning in Iraq is neccessary in the war on terror, and will be a huge blow to the eniemes of Ameirca!!! I hopw that now you realize the good that the war in Iraq is doing, and how utterly stupid Stabenow is and how she is hurting America!!!
I couldn’t disagree more and more strongly. The folly in Iraq has nothing to do with terrorism, the reason for invading a sovereign country were made up at worst and exaggerated at best, it has created more terrorists and enemies for us and less allies and it takes away from the real war on terror. That’s a; beside the fact that it has been ran so badly it’s almost criminal. The only people benefiting from this disaster are the bush cronies who are making obscene war profits.
I support the troops 100 percent, and as a former career military man I feel like I know the “troops” since I was once one of them. And as such I only want to see them put in harm’s way when absolutely necessary. This does not meet that criteria. Supporting the troops does not mean waving a flag and going to a rally on the courthouse lawn on Sept. 11 and making a few speeches.
Tell me one good thing the war in Iraq is accomplishing.
I would first like to thank you for your service to this nation, and because of that I am appaled that you can not support the war in Iraq, which is blatenly bashing the troops, I dont know what war you fought in, I dont even know if you fought in a war, but what I do know is that since I have a Great Uncle who served in Vietnam, which was critized much like this war, he says that those who said they did support the troops, but not the war, were hipporcrates and are not true Americans. This is coming from a man who has seen the wrost of combat.
One good thing out of the War in Iraq is that the people of Iraq are now free to do as they please and dont have to be worried about being killed over something they say. While I will adimit that terrorist are greater in numbers, that was something that was expected, at least I expected it. You are nothing but a hippocrate who belives that America should not help those in need.
The LCTARs 9/11 event was not a pro war event, it was done out of the goodness of TEENAGERS hearts who wish to thank our military, firemen, police, EMS, and veterans. If you went you would realize what the event was, obviously you did not go since you are bad mouthing a bunch of teens. If you want to attack people then attack someone your own age, or at least some one of your intelligence!!! God Bless America, God Bless the Troops, God Bless a free Iraq, and God Bless the Republican Party!!!
Please tell me where I am bashing the troops?. Not that it matters, but I was in the first Gulf War, but the point is that’s exactly why I’m against this useless war. The lives of the people who are fighting it are far too valuable to be sacrificed for no reason.
This war is similar to Vietnam in one instance; it was a useless war that had no clear plan for victory just like this one. But it is a 180 degrees difference in that no one is disrespecting the troops. I grew up in that area, and I also served in the military in the Pacific theater less than a year after the last Americans left Vietnam. I know what I’m talking about.
I’m a hypocrite? How? I never supported this war to being with. Many people, who it turns out were correct, said wait and let the weapons inspectors do their job, but bush said Iraq was an immediate threat to the U.S. while desperately trying to link Iraq and 9/11. None of that was true, as it turns out. Please explain to me how the war on terror is being won when you yourself admit there are more terrorists? What kind of logic is that?
Please show me where I am attacking anyone? I have no problem with the 9/11 event, but for you to pretend you have not politicized it is dishonest. I also fail too see what age has to do with anything. If you put out false information expect to get called on it. Welcome to the real world.
Why remember 9/11 like that every year and forget other very important events and days? Why not mark Pearl Harbor, D-Day, Iwo Jima or the end of the Vietnam War? More Americans were killed in those events than in 9/11, and these young men and women knew they were laying their lives on the line.
You continue to mark 9/11, again, I have no problem with that. I was at the candlelight vigil on the courthouse lawn on Sept. 12, 2001, and that’s the one I will remember for the rest of my life. The entire U.S. was united and the world was behind us, but it didn’t take long for that to evaporate because bush saw that once-in-a-lifetime happening as just political capital he could spend on carrying out a long held goal to illegally invade Iraq and get away with it.
But as I said before, truly supporting the troops means only putting then in danger when there is no other alternative, giving them the best equipment and leaders available, giving them a clear mission and taking care of them when they come home. The cuts to the VA bush has made are obscene. That’s truly supporting the troops?
As I said before, you are bashing the troops when you dont support the war, their job!!! What if I said that the Gulf War was a waste of time? How would that make you feel? I would feel angry and feel as if my country, who I fought to keep free and they say my job is not important. You sir are a hipocrate beacause of this. Vietnam is not totally different from the war in Iraq because you have people protesting the war!!!
I can admit that there are more terrorists and say that there is progress in the war on terror because since 9/11 not one terrorist attack has happend on American soil, while it has happend to the men and women serving that was not a suprise. When you have people taking a religon, (Islam), and twising it to make it okay to strap bombs to yourself, and your two year old son, and blow up inesent people, you are going to have attacks on soldiers of the free world!!!
I am not saying Bush is perfect, but I will say he is a decent President, because he fights for our freedom, and any President, any figure, deserves to be recoginzed for their ability to show us as Americans how to defend our freedom.
How did the LCTARs make a 9/11 event political? Dont say that because we had Republican representatives there it was political, becuase even if they were Democrates, or Independents they would have been invited to speak!!! The LCTARs does not put on rememberance events for the catastrophes that you listed because we were not alive for them. I belive that we should do more to remember those events, but since I am new to the LCTARs I wont speak my mind much. When I said pick on someone your own age, I was reffering to how you attacked the LCTARs 9/11 event when it was not a political event, not becasue of our age.
That’s ridiculous. I have told you in no uncertain terms I support the troops and how I support them. The troops do not make policy; do not decide whom, where and when to fight. They do what they are told, and it’s up to the public to see we have competent leaders that use them wisely. We failed them in that regard. The political leaders make the decisions, and that’s whom I am criticizing, and they deserve it.
Again, how am I a hypocrite? Maybe you don’t understand what the word means. I have maintained and will always maintain that troops should only be used when there is no other alternative. If I were a hypocrite it would say one thing in public and another in private. My position has not changed nor will it ever after reading the 9/11 Commission Report: the troops are far too valuable to place in danger unless it is absolutely necessary.
You can say whatever you like abut the Gulf War and my role in it. I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution, and the Constitution says Congress decides when troops are used in combat. My country called and I answered. If the war was useless then my problem is with the civilian leadership that sent me, and I will continue to support and defend the Constitution when it’s my turn in the voting booth to hold them accountable. I would hope the public would hold the leaders accountable if they placed my comrades or me in danger without a valid reason, and that’s what the war protesters are all about.
I have already pointed out how the Vietnam War is different but also far too like this fiasco. There has only been one terrorist attack on American soil in more than 200 years, and the person who was on watch when it happened is still there. The fiasco in Iraq has nothing to do with the “war on terror,” and it’s taking away from it. Have you ever heard of Afghanistan or Osama Bin Laden?
If you think Islam is the only religion that has extreme zealots that have killed in the name of religion then you haven’t heard of the Inquisition in the Thirteenth Century.
I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on President Bush.
There is no doubt in my mind the 9/11 event was political. What independents or Democrats were invited to speak? Sen. Carl Levin is the ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, was he invited to speak?
You have a valid point when you say you were not alive when the events I talked about happened, but I was only alive for one of them myself. That doesn’t make those events any less significant. I wasn’t born on July 4, 1776 either, but we really mark that day. But if it’s not political, why didn’t you mark the event in 2002, 2003 or 2004? It seems political because Bush has used 9/11 as an excuse for everything he does, and if you question the eroding of our precious freedoms somehow you are unpatriotic and do not support the troops, so untrue.
First, I never attacked you or the TARS. I happen to admire any organization that gets young people involved in politics. I just wish you had a little bit more of an open mind. When you say, “…you are bad mouthing a bunch of teens. If you want to attack people then attack someone your own age” that leads me to believe you did attack me because I am older than you. If I read that wrong I apologize.
For your information, the LCTARs did invite Carl Levin, Debbie Stabenow, and we recived no answer, and from Carl Levin we got no answer.
Really? DO you have any proof of that? How far in advance did you invite them? Did you do call them. Both senators cover the entire state of Michigan, so maybe they chose not to attend a nonpartsian even over a gop political event. But that is just speculation on my part. I have no idea what their schedules were like, or if in fact you did invite them.
We sent the following letter to both senators,
"Dear Senator Stabbenow, Levin,
The Livingston County TeenAgeRepublicanS is putting on their second annul 9/11 rememberance event. As you are our Senator we would appreciate it if you would come and speak at our event. This is a non-partisain event. The event will be at the Livingston County Historic Court House Lawn, at 7:30 p.m. If you have any questions please e-mail us at lctars@yahoo.com, or call us at (1517) 548-3467.
Thank you,
Livingston County TeenAgeRepublicanS"
This letter was sent out on July 31st, and we got no response.
If this does not prove that this is a none-partisan event, than I dont know what is.
The Livingston County Teen Age Republicans are putting on a nonpartisan event. What part of republican is nonpartisan? And just because you say its nonpartisan it’s nonpartisan? Like I said before, I went to a nonpartisan 9/11 ceremony on the courthouse lawn, and that was held in 2001. That was the last nonpartisan one held in Livingston County. I don’t know where our Senators went to mark the event, but considering they had the entire state of Michigan to choose from I suspect they truly went to a nonpartisan event.
However, that being said, I’m going to concede this one, and believe in your hearts you were trying to do the right thing. But I think I have deserved the right to be a little cynical. I took my family to a support the troops rally once on the courthouse steps, and I left angry and disappointed when Valde Garcia and Mike Rogers used the opportunity to bash the media in an attempt to sell the Iraq fiasco.
I will try to go next year and reserve my judgment until then.
I dont know where our Senators went, or even if they did any thing. While from experience I think all events have a little partisian in them, (be it Religion or politicts) I think that the LCTARs did a very good non partisian event. I would like to know what event you said that Garcia and Rogers bashed the media. Just out of curiosity.
BigShot
I have to disagree, but you are right to a point. However, an event sponsored by a group that has Republican in its name may lead some people to think it was partisan. Here’s a link to what I was talking about. To me, it took a joyous homecoming event and turned into a political event.
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1139147/posts
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